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		<title>Comment on Monthly Advocacy Meeting, Feb 13 in Narragansett by dave</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2012/02/06/monthly-advocacy-meeting-feb-13-in-narragansett/comment-page-1#comment-65370</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEAVIEW RAILROAD THROUGH CANONCHET 
 
If you&#8217;re dead set on going through Canonchet and you don&#8217;t want to connect the bike path to town then go first rate. And if you have the money use the old bed of the Seaview Railroad. The Seaview Railroad was an electric line that came to Narragansett from East Greenwich. Passengers rode to Narragansett on an electric trolley which followed a route that today parallels Route 1A. The Seaview crossed Boston Neck Rd in the vicinity of Envine Estates in the north end of Narragansett. From there it went west, across fields, through the woods, to the shore line of Pettaquascutt Cove. It hugged the coast south to a water crossing over Narrow River west of Sprague Bridge. This particular section, short of the water crossing, is currently under study by the RI DOT to determine the feasibility of using that route again as bike path. Logistically speaking, the section of right of way under consideration, begins on the north side of Sprague Bridge, cuts through the Chafee Wildlife Preserve, across Middlebridge Rd, to the neighborhood of Mettatuxet; a few miles ahead to the northeast. This is a very beautiful ROW that follows along Pettaquascutt Cove and is used today as power easement by National Grid.   
In its day, the Seaview, in Narragansett, had two water crossings both on pilings, the first mentioned over Narrow River (west of Sprague Bridge), and a longer span over Pettaquascutt Cove to a landing on the north edge of what is today Canonchet Farm. Once on the Canonchet property, the bed came along the marsh riding on an elevated bed of fill. The last stretch travelled through a heavily wooded area, parallel to Riverside Drive, before the line terminated behind, what is today, the Narragansett Community Center, but was back in the day, the junction of the Narragansett Pier Rail Road. You can&#8217;t make this stuff up? Remnants of the Seaview Railroad are still visible throughout Narragansett, in the old pilings west of Sprague Bridge and in sections of undisturbed rail bed that still lie in the woods from the Narragansett Community Center to the North Kingstown town line.  
In Sprague Park, where the Seaview joined the NPRR, was a switch or some kind of other contraption to turn the trains around so the Seaview could head back north to East Greenwich. There were other trains coming and going, a busy railroad intersection, so a section of track had to be built to allow trains to park and wait out locomotives that continued business as usual. That section of &#8216;parking track&#8217; is still there, an elevated bed behind the Sprague Park playground. You can still see the old bed from the west end of Wanda St. The power line goes straight ahead along the edge of Sprague Park, behind the playground, to the dirt road (Right of Way) adjacent to the Sprague Pond. This is very confusing and I&#8217;m just saying there are elevated beds all over that property. Unfortunately there was no direct route, by rail, to the beach. But before the Seaview line crossed Pettaquascutt Cove, it did skirt, 20 feet away, a high piece of upland ground in Canonchet. This can easily be connected to the beach by using the old farmer&#8217;s road behind the South County Museum. We are talking &amp;frac34; of a mile of ice proof boardwalk, $1, 200,000 +/- and excavation of a section of trail from the edge of the marsh to the museum. From the museum Ann Hoxie Lane can be used, which is a gravel roadway chained off nine months out of the year? It&#8217;s hard to believe that Ann Hoxie Lane isn&#8217;t used today by bikers? It&#8217;s a beautiful road by the museum that begins at the town beach and comes out on the end of Strathmore St, less than &amp;frac14; mile from Sprague Park. You should remember that Wanda or Strathmore Streets might not be the first choice but it could be a route that is in overnight to at least give riders an alternative route to the beach from the end of Phase 3?   
There&#8217;s also the issue of getting across Lake Canonchet, (Pier Pond), using the small bridge that&#8217;s across the street from the Narragansett town beach. You have to understand that on a summer day the bridge is filled with two way car traffic, people on foot, all crowding that access point trying to get to the beach parking on the west side of 1A. The bridge is 15 feet wide. All I&#8217;m saying is that for three months this area is a real mess and the lack of bike parking and the increase in traffic over that bridge shouldn&#8217;t be ignored by planners. But there is not a more beautiful route through Canonchet with unobstructed year round views of the cove. Once again this is a route that allows you to use an area that already undergone, in the past, a high degree of disruption to the landscape. Whether it&#8217;s possible to continue the Seaview north over Pettaquascutt Cove and onward to the North Kingstown Line is for time to decide. At least the option would be in place for the next generation to continue the bike path north. Did I mention rails to trails?   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEAVIEW RAILROAD THROUGH CANONCHET </p>
<p>If you&rsquo;re dead set on going through Canonchet and you don&rsquo;t want to connect the bike path to town then go first rate. And if you have the money use the old bed of the Seaview Railroad. The Seaview Railroad was an electric line that came to Narragansett from East Greenwich. Passengers rode to Narragansett on an electric trolley which followed a route that today parallels Route 1A. The Seaview crossed Boston Neck Rd in the vicinity of Envine Estates in the north end of Narragansett. From there it went west, across fields, through the woods, to the shore line of Pettaquascutt Cove. It hugged the coast south to a water crossing over Narrow River west of Sprague Bridge. This particular section, short of the water crossing, is currently under study by the RI DOT to determine the feasibility of using that route again as bike path. Logistically speaking, the section of right of way under consideration, begins on the north side of Sprague Bridge, cuts through the Chafee Wildlife Preserve, across Middlebridge Rd, to the neighborhood of Mettatuxet; a few miles ahead to the northeast. This is a very beautiful ROW that follows along Pettaquascutt Cove and is used today as power easement by National Grid.<br />
In its day, the Seaview, in Narragansett, had two water crossings both on pilings, the first mentioned over Narrow River (west of Sprague Bridge), and a longer span over Pettaquascutt Cove to a landing on the north edge of what is today Canonchet Farm. Once on the Canonchet property, the bed came along the marsh riding on an elevated bed of fill. The last stretch travelled through a heavily wooded area, parallel to Riverside Drive, before the line terminated behind, what is today, the Narragansett Community Center, but was back in the day, the junction of the Narragansett Pier Rail Road. You can&rsquo;t make this stuff up? Remnants of the Seaview Railroad are still visible throughout Narragansett, in the old pilings west of Sprague Bridge and in sections of undisturbed rail bed that still lie in the woods from the Narragansett Community Center to the North Kingstown town line.<br />
In Sprague Park, where the Seaview joined the NPRR, was a switch or some kind of other contraption to turn the trains around so the Seaview could head back north to East Greenwich. There were other trains coming and going, a busy railroad intersection, so a section of track had to be built to allow trains to park and wait out locomotives that continued business as usual. That section of &lsquo;parking track&rsquo; is still there, an elevated bed behind the Sprague Park playground. You can still see the old bed from the west end of Wanda St. The power line goes straight ahead along the edge of Sprague Park, behind the playground, to the dirt road (Right of Way) adjacent to the Sprague Pond. This is very confusing and I&rsquo;m just saying there are elevated beds all over that property. Unfortunately there was no direct route, by rail, to the beach. But before the Seaview line crossed Pettaquascutt Cove, it did skirt, 20 feet away, a high piece of upland ground in Canonchet. This can easily be connected to the beach by using the old farmer&rsquo;s road behind the South County Museum. We are talking &amp;frac34; of a mile of ice proof boardwalk, $1, 200,000 +/- and excavation of a section of trail from the edge of the marsh to the museum. From the museum Ann Hoxie Lane can be used, which is a gravel roadway chained off nine months out of the year? It&rsquo;s hard to believe that Ann Hoxie Lane isn&rsquo;t used today by bikers? It&rsquo;s a beautiful road by the museum that begins at the town beach and comes out on the end of Strathmore St, less than &amp;frac14; mile from Sprague Park. You should remember that Wanda or Strathmore Streets might not be the first choice but it could be a route that is in overnight to at least give riders an alternative route to the beach from the end of Phase 3?<br />
There&rsquo;s also the issue of getting across Lake Canonchet, (Pier Pond), using the small bridge that&rsquo;s across the street from the Narragansett town beach. You have to understand that on a summer day the bridge is filled with two way car traffic, people on foot, all crowding that access point trying to get to the beach parking on the west side of 1A. The bridge is 15 feet wide. All I&rsquo;m saying is that for three months this area is a real mess and the lack of bike parking and the increase in traffic over that bridge shouldn&rsquo;t be ignored by planners. But there is not a more beautiful route through Canonchet with unobstructed year round views of the cove. Once again this is a route that allows you to use an area that already undergone, in the past, a high degree of disruption to the landscape. Whether it&rsquo;s possible to continue the Seaview north over Pettaquascutt Cove and onward to the North Kingstown Line is for time to decide. At least the option would be in place for the next generation to continue the bike path north. Did I mention rails to trails?   </p>
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		<title>Comment on Alternative Transportation Pilot Boosts Biking 49 Percent by Labann</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2012/05/14/alternative-transportation-pilot-boosts-biking-49-percent/comment-page-1#comment-65165</link>
		<dc:creator>Labann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 15:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any pure statistics of recent history would be skewed by lack of driven commutes by underemployed/unemployed workforce. Any mention of carfree benefits might mention the fact that motoring is among the most inimical activities against environment and personal health, a root cause for all leading causes of death (cardiovascular diseases from inactivity, cancers from petroleum distilates, car crashes) as well as warfare to secure oil profits. Weaning people away from wanton motoring should be America&#039;s #1 priority. Europe&#039;s public transportation system, especially trains, is well used. America&#039;s suffers from lack of support and vision, mostly because oil interests don&#039;t want anything to limit historic profits.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any pure statistics of recent history would be skewed by lack of driven commutes by underemployed/unemployed workforce. Any mention of carfree benefits might mention the fact that motoring is among the most inimical activities against environment and personal health, a root cause for all leading causes of death (cardiovascular diseases from inactivity, cancers from petroleum distilates, car crashes) as well as warfare to secure oil profits. Weaning people away from wanton motoring should be America&#039;s #1 priority. Europe&#039;s public transportation system, especially trains, is well used. America&#039;s suffers from lack of support and vision, mostly because oil interests don&#039;t want anything to limit historic profits.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Alternative Transportation Pilot Boosts Biking 49 Percent by Ken Gould</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2012/05/14/alternative-transportation-pilot-boosts-biking-49-percent/comment-page-1#comment-65120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 22:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, great report -- thanks for passing along!  Just skimmed it, but look forward to reviewing the details. 
 
The angle that often gets short-changed in these analyses is economic benefit.  Health and environmental benefits are certainly noble goals, but folks who could care less about cycling should also be happy to see the improved retail climate and boost to property values that typically accompanies a solid investment in non-motorized transportation infrastructure. 
 
Hope there&#039;s a part 2 to this study with some of that learning. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, great report &#8212; thanks for passing along!  Just skimmed it, but look forward to reviewing the details. </p>
<p>The angle that often gets short-changed in these analyses is economic benefit.  Health and environmental benefits are certainly noble goals, but folks who could care less about cycling should also be happy to see the improved retail climate and boost to property values that typically accompanies a solid investment in non-motorized transportation infrastructure. </p>
<p>Hope there&#039;s a part 2 to this study with some of that learning. </p>
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		<title>Comment on East Bay Bike Path Construction by carfreepvd</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2011/10/22/east-bay-bike-path-construction/comment-page-1#comment-65116</link>
		<dc:creator>carfreepvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this press release: 
 
Good afternoon, 
  
A closed segment of the East Bay Bike Path, from Veterans Memorial Parkway to Riverside Square in East Providence, is scheduled to open on Wednesday, May 16, 2012. It has been closed since last fall for City of East Providence sewer construction. 
  
Any questions about the project can be directed to the City of East Providence&#8217;s engineering consultant, Steve Small of AECOM, at 401-680-5994. 
  
Regards, 
Charles 
 
  
Charles E. St. Martin III 
Chief of Information and Public Relations 
Rhode Island Department of Transportation 
2 Capitol Hill - Room 239 
Providence, RI 02903 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this press release: </p>
<p>Good afternoon, </p>
<p>A closed segment of the East Bay Bike Path, from Veterans Memorial Parkway to Riverside Square in East Providence, is scheduled to open on Wednesday, May 16, 2012. It has been closed since last fall for City of East Providence sewer construction. </p>
<p>Any questions about the project can be directed to the City of East Providence&rsquo;s engineering consultant, Steve Small of AECOM, at 401-680-5994. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Charles </p>
<p>Charles E. St. Martin III<br />
Chief of Information and Public Relations<br />
Rhode Island Department of Transportation<br />
2 Capitol Hill &#8211; Room 239<br />
Providence, RI 02903 </p>
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		<title>Comment on East Bay Bike Path Construction by MattMoritz</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2011/10/22/east-bay-bike-path-construction/comment-page-1#comment-65083</link>
		<dc:creator>MattMoritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official word is May 16th. 
 
Some email chatter on the NBW list indicated that the path was passable during the day, though there are workers still on it, some railings are still missing and landscaping to be done. The path paving was reported as complete. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official word is May 16th. </p>
<p>Some email chatter on the NBW list indicated that the path was passable during the day, though there are workers still on it, some railings are still missing and landscaping to be done. The path paving was reported as complete. </p>
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		<title>Comment on East Bay Bike Path Construction by carfreepvd</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2011/10/22/east-bay-bike-path-construction/comment-page-1#comment-65081</link>
		<dc:creator>carfreepvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any update on if this will be completed for &quot;bike to work week&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any update on if this will be completed for &quot;bike to work week&quot;? </p>
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		<title>Comment on Bike To Work Day &#8211; 2012 by Bike To Work Week Events, 2012 - Rhode Island Bicycle Coalition</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/programs/bike-to-work-day-2012/comment-page-1#comment-65026</link>
		<dc:creator>Bike To Work Week Events, 2012 - Rhode Island Bicycle Coalition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bike To Work Day &#8211; 2012 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Monthly Advocacy Meeting, Feb 13 in Narragansett by dave</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2012/02/06/monthly-advocacy-meeting-feb-13-in-narragansett/comment-page-1#comment-65016</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, a town is more than just a place to buy plastic crap from China or to get takeout from McDonald&#039;s. It&#8217;s a place where people live and people visit. There are parks and playgrounds, ball fields, schools, trees, war monuments, and if harmony and common sense prevail, a series of interconnected trails and pathways designed to encourage non-motorized use. Exactly what would happen if they used the old Narragansett Pier Railroad bed and connected the three Narragansett public schools, the town parks, the ball fields, picnic area etc&#8230;etc.?  
In a historic perspective, Rowland G. Hazard, president of the Peace Dale Manufacturing Company had his own &#8216;destination vision&#8217; and in1876, commissioned Reynolds Downing to build a railroad from Kingston to Narragansett Pier. Part of Hazard&#8217;s motive, aside from hauling tourists to the Pier, was to land coal at South Pier and use the resource to power his manufacturing complex in Peace Dale. Always the entrepreneur, Hazard knew the economic advantage of having coal delivered by schooner rather than by using a more expensive route north by rail. And once the coal made landfall (at South Pier), it was Hazard&#8217;s own rail cars that hauled the fuel the last four miles to the mill.  
My point is this. Everything had a purpose; the dock, the train, the railroad bed. There might be a day when all that is needed again, the dock, the train and the railroad bed. That opinion though, future use of a railroad, is probably viewed as cynical and gets about the same apprehension today as the fellow who insisted on installing a tunnel under Route 1 or putting a curb cut in (which is still there), where the old bed crosses Kingstown Rd? Which begs the bigger question? If it&#8217;s private property then how could the state install a curb cut on the old line where it crosses Kingstown Rd?  
Regardless; Hazards insight shouldn&#8217;t allow our current vision to be clouded by making a new path to the sea, but rather to use an existing old railroad bed; a route that&#8217;s already undergone major (disrupted) landscape changes based on a design of feasibility and practicality. Remember rails to trails.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, a town is more than just a place to buy plastic crap from China or to get takeout from McDonald&#039;s. It&rsquo;s a place where people live and people visit. There are parks and playgrounds, ball fields, schools, trees, war monuments, and if harmony and common sense prevail, a series of interconnected trails and pathways designed to encourage non-motorized use. Exactly what would happen if they used the old Narragansett Pier Railroad bed and connected the three Narragansett public schools, the town parks, the ball fields, picnic area etc&hellip;etc.?<br />
In a historic perspective, Rowland G. Hazard, president of the Peace Dale Manufacturing Company had his own &lsquo;destination vision&rsquo; and in1876, commissioned Reynolds Downing to build a railroad from Kingston to Narragansett Pier. Part of Hazard&rsquo;s motive, aside from hauling tourists to the Pier, was to land coal at South Pier and use the resource to power his manufacturing complex in Peace Dale. Always the entrepreneur, Hazard knew the economic advantage of having coal delivered by schooner rather than by using a more expensive route north by rail. And once the coal made landfall (at South Pier), it was Hazard&rsquo;s own rail cars that hauled the fuel the last four miles to the mill.<br />
My point is this. Everything had a purpose; the dock, the train, the railroad bed. There might be a day when all that is needed again, the dock, the train and the railroad bed. That opinion though, future use of a railroad, is probably viewed as cynical and gets about the same apprehension today as the fellow who insisted on installing a tunnel under Route 1 or putting a curb cut in (which is still there), where the old bed crosses Kingstown Rd? Which begs the bigger question? If it&rsquo;s private property then how could the state install a curb cut on the old line where it crosses Kingstown Rd?<br />
Regardless; Hazards insight shouldn&rsquo;t allow our current vision to be clouded by making a new path to the sea, but rather to use an existing old railroad bed; a route that&rsquo;s already undergone major (disrupted) landscape changes based on a design of feasibility and practicality. Remember rails to trails.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on East Bay Bike Path Construction by Labann</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2011/10/22/east-bay-bike-path-construction/comment-page-1#comment-64668</link>
		<dc:creator>Labann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dirt slides are easily controlled with hay bales. Public works department has a sort of  &quot;grinder&quot; that eliminates cracks and heaves in no time, then paint tar to surface. These are low cost, quick repairs. Took me scores of letters and personal appearances before public meetings to shame RIDOT into reopening Blackstone Bikeway, a $12 million facility ignored by cyclists for 8 years because of the &quot;safety&quot; closure at the Martin Street Bridge. Then Director Jerome Williams thanked me for my commitment at the rededication. Basically, officials don&#039;t believe enough citizens care until they get nasty phone calls from local representatives. They&#039;ll close a train bridge and leave it that way for a decade as at Cranston Street under RI 10, or forever, as was the case at Pettaconsett Ave in Norwood. Are they planning to leave Reservoir Ave at Columbus Square closed forever, too? At least meanwhile make the open sidewalk bike accessible. Same thing for Hamlin Street bridge at Roger Williams Park, which has a gate easily opened for bikes alone with only one stanchion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dirt slides are easily controlled with hay bales. Public works department has a sort of  &quot;grinder&quot; that eliminates cracks and heaves in no time, then paint tar to surface. These are low cost, quick repairs. Took me scores of letters and personal appearances before public meetings to shame RIDOT into reopening Blackstone Bikeway, a $12 million facility ignored by cyclists for 8 years because of the &quot;safety&quot; closure at the Martin Street Bridge. Then Director Jerome Williams thanked me for my commitment at the rededication. Basically, officials don&#039;t believe enough citizens care until they get nasty phone calls from local representatives. They&#039;ll close a train bridge and leave it that way for a decade as at Cranston Street under RI 10, or forever, as was the case at Pettaconsett Ave in Norwood. Are they planning to leave Reservoir Ave at Columbus Square closed forever, too? At least meanwhile make the open sidewalk bike accessible. Same thing for Hamlin Street bridge at Roger Williams Park, which has a gate easily opened for bikes alone with only one stanchion. </p>
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		<title>Comment on East Bay Bike Path Construction by MattMoritz</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2011/10/22/east-bay-bike-path-construction/comment-page-1#comment-64628</link>
		<dc:creator>MattMoritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought something similar earlier this year when I started hearing about all of the project planned for this year in Coventry.  The construction work planned on WSBP won&#039;t even be in the sections that have the heaves and dirt slides onto the path in Cranston. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought something similar earlier this year when I started hearing about all of the project planned for this year in Coventry.  The construction work planned on WSBP won&#039;t even be in the sections that have the heaves and dirt slides onto the path in Cranston. </p>
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